| Line 3: |
Line 3: |
| | I think I'm also going to go ahead and take some initiative and clean up these discussion pages - a lot of this can be deleted, and it will always be accessible since this is a wiki. For discussions that reached a consensus, I'll just have that decision spelled out somewhere.[[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 22:26, 18 March 2013 (UTC) | | I think I'm also going to go ahead and take some initiative and clean up these discussion pages - a lot of this can be deleted, and it will always be accessible since this is a wiki. For discussions that reached a consensus, I'll just have that decision spelled out somewhere.[[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 22:26, 18 March 2013 (UTC) |
| | | | |
| − | ==starting==
| |
| − | AMG, you are a goddess amongst men. If you are the artist, I have confidence that this could be done well. Were you the person that initially suggested this? [[User:Bytor|Bytor]]
| |
| | | | |
| − | :I think 3, 4, and 5 are very doable, and are short enough they shouldn't be a big deal. I think we could perhaps do those to get the system down, and then tackle 2. I presume 4 and 5 will not have any choices in the paths? Personally, I don't have a huge interest in the dating sim as I haven't actually played one before, but if there is interest, I would certainly be willing to help with it. If the guys in Welcome to the NHK can make one, then surely we can, too, right? [[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 14:54, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
| + | ==timezones== |
| | | | |
| − | ::I'll look into how wiki software can help us with this; I'd like the pages related to this to be semiprotected, so only logged in users can edit, and potentially some pages that can only be seen by approved users. [[User:Bytor|Bytor]]
| + | ahania is 0 |
| | + | amysteriousgal is ?? |
| | + | arabesque is +2 |
| | + | bytor is -6 |
| | | | |
| − | :::Indeed I was. Thank you; I don't have as much confidence in my drawing ability as you seem to, but I'll certainly do the best I can. [[User:Amysteriousgal]]
| |
| | | | |
| − | ::::I don't believe I've seen any of your work fully colored, but your general style and skill level are definitely good. [[User:Bytor|Bytor]]
| + | == file location == |
| | | | |
| − | :::::I really only work with chunks of flat colours. The shading is usually built into the lineart. Never quite worked out how to do things any other way. I'll see if I can put something together by tomorrow, maybe a title screen illustration. [[User:Amysteriousgal|Amysteriousgal]] 16:07, 15 December 2012 (UTC) | + | choices: |
| | + | *google drive |
| | + | *ftp/svn on mebious.com |
| | | | |
| − | :::3, 4 and 5 would probably be linear. 5 might need a menu to let users select different sections. That's pretty easy to implement. 1 and 2 could work with simple branching (which I've used) or with flags and/or points (which I haven't, but doesn't seem hard). They probably won't be too long, either. The dating sim could potentially take up about half the entire VN, if we choose to write it seriously. If it's a comedy, like the day in the life, then it could be extremely short. [[User:Amysteriousgal|Amysteriousgal]] 15:03, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
| + | I vote for google drive- that seems simple enough if we all have accounts with the beast. [[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 22:32, 18 March 2013 (UTC) |
| | | | |
| − | I would like to offer help, if needed. I'm not much of a visual artist nor programmer, but could help out with GUI design or basic Ren'Py code. In addition to that, I could perhaps provide a Japanese translation (I'm the Japanese studying mebby weeaboo) or provide sound FX and other help with audio (I have a decent large diagram microphone and some audio hobbyist background). Or whatever else you might need help with. Let's make this happen! --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 15:13, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
| |
| | | | |
| − | So I'm thinking maybe we should start using irc to communicate a bit for this- i can lurk permanently (or use a bot) to log it and copy the log to mebious.com . My timezone is -6, ahania is 0, where are you AMG and arabesque? perhaps we can find a good time of day/week to meetup occasionally, and then split off to do work on our own time? i really would like to see this actually happen. [[Special:Contributions/208.54.86.236|208.54.86.236]] 17:17, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
| + | ==resolution== |
| | | | |
| − | :I'm +2 UTC --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 18:22, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
| + | All my Lain screencaps are 480 x 360, but they scaled up surprisingly well. It's standard for VN backgrounds to look blurry, right? Do we want to specify a more Lain-like typeface? I was thinking of Courier New or something like it. 02:13, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[[User:Amysteriousgal|Amysteriousgal]] |
| − |
| |
| − | ----
| |
| − | | |
| − | | |
| − | I went and sorted the stories alphabetically. Naturally that doesn't have to be the final order (or presentation) of them though. --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 00:43, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
| |
| − | | |
| − | | |
| − | | |
| − | == Project management platform? ==
| |
| − | What sort of setup will we need for the software? Should we have subversion repository, or would something simple like google drive be enough? Also, I think it might be best for us to use an Agile-like process for working on this. (can you tell I'm a programmer :(? ) Since this will be several short pieces, we can work on one, and start with a bare structure, and then flesh it out as the pieces are created. [[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 16:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
| |
| − | | |
| − | : I've been using Dropbox with success in some other online projects. I'm fine with Google Drive as well though. I would imagine one of us (AMG probably) creates the 1st draft in Ren'Py, archives its contents, and uploads to a cloud we use. Then we can create and discuss new revisions as we go. That's probably something similar to the Agile-like process you described? --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 16:21, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
| |
| − | :''edit:'' It could even be an FPT folder @mebious.com I guess, in case you have sufficient amount of drive space available and you're willing to make one. Visual novels archive quite neatly, especially if we keep the music files local. --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 16:55, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
| |
| − | | |
| − | ::I can volunteer space. it will probably be on a subdomain (likely m.mebious.com) and a non-80 port, but computer resources are not an isssue. [[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 19:57, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
| |
| − | | |
| − | :::: I may go so far as to make a VM, and then share the username/password with you all, so that you could do ssh and scp to it. [[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 01:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
| |
| − | | |
| − | ::Re: process, that would work. The basic idea is that you go through cycles, and at the end of each cycle you have a "working" product. So the first step is to get the basic layout down. then add more text fleshing out each scene, more art, more sounds, etc. I'll have to sit down and play with ren'py myself I guess to see if I really know what I'm talking about for this situation.[[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 01:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
| |
| − | | |
| − | | |
| − | Not entirely sure what's going on here. May need to retrieve bear hat before proceeding further. ...I tried putting together the start of Lain's life and Chisa's story in Ren'Py just now. All my Lain screencaps are 480 x 360, but they scaled up surprisingly well. It's standard for VN backgrounds to look blurry, right? Do we want to specify a more Lain-like typeface? I was thinking of Courier New or something like it. 02:13, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[[User:Amysteriousgal|Amysteriousgal]]
| |
| | | | |
| | :640x480 seems like The Classic VN Resolution, although it's rather small by today's standards. I'd suggest 1024x768 (4:3) or 1024×576 (16:9). As for the font, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbus_Mono_L Nimbus Mono L] comes pretty close to Courier New, and is open source. --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 16:06, 20 December 2012 (UTC) | | :640x480 seems like The Classic VN Resolution, although it's rather small by today's standards. I'd suggest 1024x768 (4:3) or 1024×576 (16:9). As for the font, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbus_Mono_L Nimbus Mono L] comes pretty close to Courier New, and is open source. --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 16:06, 20 December 2012 (UTC) |
| Line 56: |
Line 35: |
| | :::Yeah, I think the font style would fit right in, most likely. --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 20:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC) | | :::Yeah, I think the font style would fit right in, most likely. --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 20:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC) |
| | | | |
| | + | |
| | + | ==font== |
| | | | |
| | I tried using Cutive Mono [https://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Cutive+Mono] just now. It's under an OFL and looks like this: | | I tried using Cutive Mono [https://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Cutive+Mono] just now. It's under an OFL and looks like this: |
| Line 64: |
Line 45: |
| | | | |
| | :I think that looks great. It's monospace, and has a nice sort of cold feeling (...because its monospace) which suits Lain well.[[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 01:32, 21 December 2012 (UTC) | | :I think that looks great. It's monospace, and has a nice sort of cold feeling (...because its monospace) which suits Lain well.[[User:Bytor|Bytor]] 01:32, 21 December 2012 (UTC) |
| | + | |
| | | | |
| | == Music == | | == Music == |
| | + | |
| | By the way, should we want to make this project comply copyrights (not that I really care, but it'd be nice), we could consider using available open music out there. For example, [http://archive.org/details/nineinchnails_ghosts_I_IV Nine Inch Nail's ''"Ghosts"''] has been released under a [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/ Creative Commons licence]. While of course not identical to the SEL soundtrack, I personally think it comes really close to the thematics described at the planning page, and to those of SEL in general. Do give it a listen if you have the time, and let me know what you think. --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 15:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC) | | By the way, should we want to make this project comply copyrights (not that I really care, but it'd be nice), we could consider using available open music out there. For example, [http://archive.org/details/nineinchnails_ghosts_I_IV Nine Inch Nail's ''"Ghosts"''] has been released under a [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/ Creative Commons licence]. While of course not identical to the SEL soundtrack, I personally think it comes really close to the thematics described at the planning page, and to those of SEL in general. Do give it a listen if you have the time, and let me know what you think. --[[User:アラベスク|アラベスク]] 15:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC) |
| | | | |
